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Post by Kittekassitar on Tue 05 Jun 2018, 18:11

Are there any new games coming up? for example "Fallout 4" and "Kingdom Come: Deliverance" ????  All Hail Carlos!
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Re: New games ???

Post by The_gh0stm4n on Wed 06 Jun 2018, 20:52

@Kittekassitar wrote:Are there any new games coming up? for example "Fallout 4" and "Kingdom Come: Deliverance" ????  All Hail Carlos!


Hello,

I guess part of your concern is centered around the section that is named "Wishlist" here:
https://games4theworld.forumotion.com/f2-wishlist

If so, keep in mind that I myself am not adding any new requests anymore to that list. But then, this is not an "official" G4TW decision, and as such the other team members are more than welcome to take over if they see fit. This Forum section was an invention of the old Admin and the old Moderator-team; their argument was that it was important to be positive and just create the impression that requests could be fulfilled. Of course: in the end they failed to realize underestimated that it raised high expectations among the users.

The issue is more complex than that though. Traditionally we tend to be short on staff, and we are barely able to give proper Support on the existing items in the download list. I myself am less motivated as well, I admit. Releasing new games is also about giving Support when needed. A few new titles or series can indeed bring some variety, but then Support needs to be ensured as well. G4TW is known for Support & tutorials on The Sims games for example. Maybe when a Sims 5 comes out, we can capitalize on this. Otherwise, new games could revolve thematically around sandbox/simulation games. Something that retains the existing userbase. 

A possible strategy could involve focusing more on in-game guides, rather than the mostly technical Support, what we do now. It would be a bit more difficult than just writing up technical guides, but it's a possible avenue. Especially with those GOG-based installers that I myself had in mind for future new games, "technical Support" will become less relevant, ... as these GOG-installers are unproblematic to use. So more in-game stuff, news, etc.

Another idea is to add various extras into future game releases, such as selected mods (pre-tested by the team) or other gimmicks. Like e.g. Steam-Workshop mods. Or other things that make these G4TW releases more memorable and unique.

What I see as problematic as well, apart from the difficulties of finding even half-capable volunteer Helpers/Moderators, is that if we were to switch our focus on "violent" games, that it could attract more problem users as well. Even if deleting/editing their comments is usually enough of an antidote, I would prefer if we can avoid dealing with those users altogether. We can still release every now and then a "violent" game, but I think our main focus should be on family-friendly content.

Another problem that I am noticing as of lately is that there seems to be a lack of seeders for the newer releases. Especially with SimCity 5. A lot of people have downloaded the game, but not many people are seeding. I haven't seen any troubleshooting requests for that game either as of now. Maybe it's because the Forum has been arguably inactive for some time, that people have forgotten about it. Maybe it's also because we have stopped using The Piratebay, due to frequent technical problems when trying to upload new torrents there.

More arguments: new "Blockbuster games" are huge in size. I looked at a potential release for Mafia III, and it was 50GB or so (incl. all DLC). Fallout 4 is over 30GB, uncompressed. Kingdom Deliverance or whatever the exact name is, is similarly big, etc. These huge games pose some difficulties with the initial seeding, even if you have a super-fast upload speed. 

A lot of work will need to be done. We need to organize (many) more seeders. We need to re-build parts of the Forum structure. We need to come up with new strategies to make things more interesting for a modern audience, etc. 

If you have any other ideas, feel free to let us know! Other than that I'm sorry I can't promise new games at this moment, other than what we already do in our "main program".

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Re: New games ???

Post by Kittekassitar on Thu 07 Jun 2018, 22:49

Thank you for answering!


If I had any games to offer you to upload here (legal games), would you be interested in them? ( family-friendly games ) Very Happy (Sorry, me myself
 i do not know anything about uploads and how it works)
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Post by The_gh0stm4n on Sun 10 Jun 2018, 19:12

@Kittekassitar wrote:Thank you for answering!


If I had any games to offer you to upload here (legal games), would you be interested in them? 


I recognize your goodwill. And it's not the first time the question about new game releases has been asked. However, when I use the reply that I gave above, it is usually followed by "does it make a difference if I send games to you". The answer is in all cases: no, it doesn't change anything.

Finding good games is actually the least of all difficulties. I myself have about two dozen games "sitting there". 

But we are still not going to release games willy-nilly, because there needs to be a larger strategy behind it (support, seeding, forum organization, maybe finding additional volunteers, etc). Again, you are nice and good-willed, but sending us stuff really won't change our stance. If you want to support us, feel free to recommend us to friends or relatives. Or you can also help seed our existing torrents.

Any new games that may come in the future will be a surprise.  Yess, aye lieeke!

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