Don't Download from Piratebay

by Guest Sat 07 Feb 2015, 20:52

They are tracking folks ip from that site. Just giving you guys a heads up

by **The_gh0stm4n** Sun 08 Feb 2015, 03:05

metrice2121 wrote:They are tracking folks ip from that site. Just giving you guys a heads up

//MOVED

Hello metrice,

I guess you are referring to this here ?
http://www.youredm.com/2015/02/03/pirate-bay-potentially-compromised-fbi/

If so, even if IP addresses were "tracked", how is anyone going to arrest or track down all the kids around the world pirating games or software ? Occasionally a single downloader will be prosecuted, yes, but that's rather unusual. Even if media coverage suggests otherwise, it's highly unlikely that those who do get arrested only downloaded stuff. Those that were arrested (also) uploaded tons of stuff.

Normally, authorities will primarily focus on heavy uploaders, instead of people who simply download a couple of things. Law enforcement agencies do NOT have the resources to focus on "property offences" or copyright infringement. They'll rather focus on the more serious stuff.

In this case, my guess is that they (FBI) will try and concentrate on certain "communication channels" within Piratebay, that supposedly serve as means for terrorist communication. But of course, that's only a theory. I cannot imagine that the FBI's HRT unit will now "visit" each and every kid who downloads a pirated game or program.

Haters gonna hate

by Guest Tue 07 Apr 2015, 01:42

I live in Israel, and I doubt that the goverment has the time to deal with things like that...
We're too busy defending ourselves from all the people that want us dead...

Edit: I realised that my comment may sound rude, so I apologise if you are offended.
I said it with a smile.
I'm giving you a cup of virtual tea as sign of peace: Tea 3

by **The_gh0stm4n** Tue 07 Apr 2015, 23:54

feycat wrote:I live in Israel, and I doubt that the goverment has the time to deal with things like that...
We're too busy defending ourselves from all the people that want us dead...

(...)

Even in countries that appear to be "safe" (most of Europe, for example), you don't get things like that, usually - as I hinted in my previous reply. Smile

Again: you cannot punish everybody who downloads something that is pirated, hence authorities will often focus on those who upload/seed a lot.

You hear things like that - i.e. that people really get arrested for pirating stuff - from countries like the US, and also from (some) countries that have close diplomatic and/or economic ties to the US. Like the UK or Germany, for example.

by **Admin** Wed 08 Apr 2015, 22:11

feycat wrote:(...)
Edit: I realised that my comment may sound rude, so I apologise if you are offended.
I said it with a smile.
I'm giving you a cup of virtual tea as sign of peace:

That's the (Games4theworld) spirit! Good job!

Have some more tea: Tea 1

by Guest Sat 09 May 2015, 18:28

I hate to break it to ya but, the CIA is tracking you constantly. Are you honestly more afraid of a bunch of internet pirates (no offense Admin) than the people who orchestrated 9/11? Rolling Eyes

by Guest Sat 26 Sep 2015, 10:27

How much uploading would you need to do to be in trouble? What are safe parameters/your monthly limit?

PS: seeding is uploading?

by **Admin** Sat 26 Sep 2015, 11:49

ruisuki wrote:How much uploading would you need to do to be in trouble? What are safe parameters/your monthly limit?

PS: seeding is uploading?

Hi,

Yes, "seeding" is the same as uploading. (More information HERE)

The amount of seeding that would cause trouble, really depends on where you live. Some countries take things more strict than others.
There are countries where the ISPs don't bother if you upload/seed even gigabytes per month.

by Guest Mon 28 Sep 2015, 09:34

Ah thats good. The US i imagine would be like that. I have never really downloaded a large amount until recently, mostly just browsed net, so I think I should be fine

by **Sim Architect** Tue 20 Oct 2015, 18:35

I feel that Internet Services Providers are more uptight in certain countries (US & UK, for example) than others, about blocking access to torrents etc.

I guess they will usually focus on a couple of people as exemplary punishment, so people don't go crazy pirating everything and paying for nothing, but both the software and the entertainment industry make tons of money from piracy, since it's a free media for advertising their content and lots of people get to know or try something first as a pirate copy first, then buy the item if they really like it.

Microsoft is HUGE now because their system was too easy to pirate, you just had to pick up a floppy disk and copy the Master Disk and have as many copies of MS-DOS as you wanted. What's free tends to be more attractive, people got to know how to use it better, and companies/governments that had to follow the law ended up buying legit copies.

You can see what happens with The Sims as a great example of reality. The first versions of the game were much easier to crack. Now they are already popular, so they pay anti virus makers to mark cracks as if they were viruses and break the non-bought copies, as they don't need that kind of marketing anymore, as "everybody knows" their product already.

The concept is so true that some companies (even EA) give freebies, shareware or trials so you "taste before you buy", or even get the base game, then they offer you tons of digital paid content (Facebook Games and Phone Apps usually make money that way, besides advertising).

They HAVE to make us look bad, so SOME people will buy their product, but they don't want to really kill piracy (or they could have done it already, just make a hardware certificate (USB chip or those cards that are like your credit card that you connect into a proper hardware) and force all your users to authenticate into their networks, plus make the code way more complex than the way it is, so crackers would have a much, way harder time to build cracks and lots of them would even give up on it already, since it would be too time consuming.

If they make it so easy to crack their software that some games/programs can be cracked by just using a simple debugger and locating the first "wrong if" of the low level code and turn it into a "go to" (I don't even know if cracks are still made like that, but it was the way back in the 80's/90's, at least, you just had to read a couple of pages from a Peter Norton book and learn it, ironic, huh?), they WANT some people to use their software for free and make them popular.

How many operating systems and software back in the 80's required a piece of hardware (I remember of ISA Cards that had some pins you used to code some kind of EPROM, then you would remove the pins and your proprietary programs would only run if the user had that piece of hardware that YOU provided physically installed inside of their PCs)? I believe that even today, if you are buying a real expensive software that is supposed to be used by fewer users, it will come with a piece of hardware or, at least, some REAL anti piracy security that you can't break with a simple download.

One thing I am seeing lately is that MS is offering Windows 10 as a free upgrade for paying customers of earlier versions, but the pirated versions are becoming "non activated" about every week whenever they roll a system update (that they smartly call "upgrade", just for changing the design of a couple of icons or enabling something that was disabled by default just for fun), then you need to download a new "Activator" and, of course, avoid "upgrading" your windows right away, but wait for a few days, so the crackers can catch up and release a new cracking tool Wink

Adobe is another example that is a bit harder to crack than MS software (it used to be REALLY expensive for the average Joe, now they rent instead of selling for much less), but not impossible at all (unless if you want to install it on a friend's computer using TeamViewer, then you will HAVE to talk to them using another channel while they do a couple of steps with their computer completely off line)...

The ones among us who can pay and find real value will buy legit copies (I own a few stuff myself, and I am "a little bit" below the average 1st world person level money-wise).

Well, I think I wrote too much already, you got the point. Meanwhile, let's spread the FREE love, peace and ~~drugs~~ ( Facepalm

ops!), no matter where...

flower

by Guest Wed 28 Oct 2015, 01:59

Admin wrote:
ruisuki wrote:How much uploading would you need to do to be in trouble? What are safe parameters/your monthly limit?

PS: seeding is uploading?
Hi,

Yes, "seeding" is the same as uploading. (More information HERE)

The amount of seeding that would cause trouble, really depends on where you live. Some countries take things more strict than others.
There are countries where the ISPs don't bother if you upload/seed even gigabytes per month.

*immediantly stops seeding* You have to be kidding me....y'all been telling everyone to seed when it counts as actually UPLOADING content? Hell no.

by **The_gh0stm4n** Wed 28 Oct 2015, 03:45

AspiringPro wrote:*immediantly stops seeding* You have to be kidding me....y'all been telling everyone to seed when it counts as actually UPLOADING content? Hell no.

I'm guessing that is a rhetorical question, but in case not: YES, we generally encourage people to seed/upload, because that is simply the way torrenting works. If you download something with your browser for instance, the download will almost always be hosted on one central server. This server will usually have the technical capacity to serve many, many download requests from other computers in the world, without slowdowns in the download speed.

Torrenting works differently. If I start seeding something (and nobody else is seeding), and a lot of people download it with their torrent clients, then I myself don't have the technical capacity to serve all the download requests - for instance because my internet isn't meant to be used for these purposes. Likewise, there are technical limitations in personal computers for home use, that make them less or not suitable at all for the type of download that a central (dedicated) server would be capable of doing. But (surprise !), the situation will look a whole lot different if there are more people seeding, than just me. In that case, the download speeds will be faster on average.

That is a very simplified explanation, but yes, torrenting needs a "community" of people to keep a torrent download alive.

What you yourself are doing is up to you. Of course, you should not bring yourself into (legal) trouble by seeding/uploading stuff. But for a start, try doing some research on the internet about your ISP - Internet Service Provider - to see if and how serious they are about torrenting. Not all of us live in the US or UK (where many ISPs crack down on people torrenting stuff), hence we can encourage people to seed - if they can.

by **Admin** Mon 02 Nov 2015, 17:53

Indeed, it's how P2P (Peer-to-peer) works.
If no one would seed, you would not (have) be(en) able to download any of our uploads in the first place. Sad

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