MCCC Discord Staff are Absolute Jerks! So Can Someone Please Interpret Last Exceptions? [SOLVED]

so my best friend (whos not rich and cannot even afford the base game and thus uses g4tw copy) decided to go to mccc discord for the mod's help... all she did was post her Last Exception and they banned her without even giving her a warning first.. what kind of admin does that??? and why r they kissing sims butt so much? the sim gurus are in the discord but they shouldnt just ban ppl without warnings. and when u call them out for banning u like a 5 yr old, they sugar coat it by using annoying emojis and saying "oh all we did was disrespectfully ban you without informing you first and giving u a chance to explain urself! tee-hee! ^_^" oh and sure my friend was banned fairly to a degree but they banned another person who owned the org copy.

so i was wondering since those d***heads wont help, will u guys possibly try making a forum dedicated to last exceptions? 

(screenshots of the stupidity in order: |no 1: http://prntscr.com/m086as |no 2: http://prntscr.com/m086ud)












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- The_gh0stm4n

There is "The Sims 4 Support" forum, I think there's no need to create another one dedicated only for last exceptions. Just keep your game and mods updated, delete mods that have no new version and all should be good. And always make a backup of your "Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4" folder when testing new mods.

As for MCCC Discord - they have all the rights to ban whoever they want. And they will if you show in any way that you're using cracked version. Don't know what you mean with those screenshots, they are just providing support. If they tell you to update the game, then do it. The latest update can be downloaded from here: https://www.games4theworld.club/t34601-the-sims-4-update-version-1-48-94-1020-out-now

i mean true the screenshots prove nothing but there never was any sign of her using a cracked ver... i mean she lied and i dont think thats nice, but the truth wouldve been riskier anyways

delan-C wrote:so my best friend (whos not rich and cannot even afford the base game and thus uses g4tw copy) decided to go to mccc discord for the mod's help... all she did was post her Last Exception and they banned her without even giving her a warning first.. what kind of admin does that??? and why r they kissing sims butt so much? the sim gurus are in the discord but they shouldnt just ban ppl without warnings. and when u call them out for banning u like a 5 yr old, they sugar coat it by using annoying emojis and saying "oh all we did was disrespectfully ban you without informing you first and giving u a chance to explain urself! tee-hee! ^_^" oh and sure my friend was banned fairly to a degree but they banned another person who owned the org copy.

so i was wondering since those d***heads wont help, will u guys possibly try making a forum dedicated to last exceptions? 

(screenshots of the stupidity in order: |no 1: http://prntscr.com/m086as |no 2: http://prntscr.com/m086ud)

Welcome to the Forum first of all,

When I ban people on the G4TW Forums or the Facebook Page, it also usually happens without warning, though our reasons for doing so are thematically different probably than on that Discord-channel you mentioned. Like, I'll give you a few examples. Most recently certain types of people (whether it's so-called "useful idiots" or paid trolls, I don't know) have started making accounts here, undermining our work. For example, "the downloads are full of viruses" on G4TW. Or "EA are watching the direct downloads, goodbye". Things like that. You have to try putting yourself in our position. Would you think it makes sense arguing with these people? 

"Freedom of Speech" and all these other wonderful concepts sound nice on paper, but we kind of have a 'mission' on our platform, and certain types of messages are not going to be tolerated. In a way, I myself am also a jerk and a savage in the context of G4TW. But does that mean I am a bad person overall? And if we want to be historically (close to) correct, "Freedom of speech" originally was meant to be that the government in charge at any given moment could not - easily - detain you for saying certain things. So you have to imagine this in the context of citizen vs. government relationships. But that's just a sidenote.

And these same thoughts can be applied 1:1 to any other Facebook/Twitter/Reddit/Discord/Blog/Website/Forum/whatever channel. It's also tempting to believe that people in general do the things that they do, purely out of ideological reasons, and yes, often that is a main motivator. But sometimes there may be other motives as well, such as certain practical advantages. I'm sure that MCCC Discord is 'featured' on the official Sims EA-Forums, maybe even by some Sims-YouTubers. Wouldn't look good if they started helping people with DRM-free copies of The Sims 4. What do you think?

We also had a similar discussion and experience, earlier, from another user. So that Discord-channel is kind of "well-known".

As for G4TW, we can have a thread within The Sims Emporium or The Sims 4 Support (PC), but honestly...like anadius said. Just make sure to always be updated to the latest available patch version from G4TW. Then use the mod version that corresponds to that patch level. Plus I also recommend deleting the file localthumbcache.package, regularly, from Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4.

The_gh0stm4n wrote:

delan-C wrote:so my best friend (whos not rich and cannot even afford the base game and thus uses g4tw copy) decided to go to mccc discord for the mod's help... all she did was post her Last Exception and they banned her without even giving her a warning first.. what kind of admin does that??? and why r they kissing sims butt so much? the sim gurus are in the discord but they shouldnt just ban ppl without warnings. and when u call them out for banning u like a 5 yr old, they sugar coat it by using annoying emojis and saying "oh all we did was disrespectfully ban you without informing you first and giving u a chance to explain urself! tee-hee! ^_^" oh and sure my friend was banned fairly to a degree but they banned another person who owned the org copy.

so i was wondering since those d***heads wont help, will u guys possibly try making a forum dedicated to last exceptions? 

(screenshots of the stupidity in order: |no 1: http://prntscr.com/m086as |no 2: http://prntscr.com/m086ud)

Welcome to the Forum first of all,

When I ban people on the G4TW Forums or the Facebook Page, it also usually happens without warning, though our reasons for doing so are thematically different probably than on that Discord-channel you mentioned. Like, I'll give you a few examples. Most recently certain types of people (whether it's so-called "useful idiots" or paid trolls, I don't know) have started making accounts here, undermining our work. For example, "the downloads are full of viruses" on G4TW. Or "EA are watching the direct downloads, goodbye". Things like that. You have to try putting yourself in our position. Would you think it makes sense arguing with these people? 

"Freedom of Speech" and all these other wonderful concepts sound nice on paper, but we kind of have a 'mission' on our platform, and certain types of messages are not going to be tolerated. In a way, I myself am also a jerk and a savage in the context of G4TW. But does that mean I am a bad person overall? And if we want to be historically (close to) correct, "Freedom of speech" originally was meant to be that the government in charge at any given moment could not - easily - detain you for saying certain things. So you have to imagine this in the context of citizen vs. government relationships. But that's just a sidenote.

And these same thoughts can be applied 1:1 to any other Facebook/Twitter/Reddit/Discord/Blog/Website/Forum/whatever channel. It's also tempting to believe that people in general do the things that they do, purely out of ideological reasons, and yes, often that is a main motivator. But sometimes there may be other motives as well, such as certain practical advantages. I'm sure that MCCC Discord is 'featured' on the official Sims EA-Forums, maybe even by some Sims-YouTubers. Wouldn't look good if they started helping people with DRM-free copies of The Sims 4. What do you think?

We also had a similar discussion and experience, earlier, from another user. So that Discord-channel is kind of "well-known".

As for G4TW, we can have a thread within The Sims Emporium or The Sims 4 Support (PC), but honestly...like anadius said. Just make sure to always be updated to the latest available patch version from G4TW. Then use the mod version that corresponds to that patch level. Plus I also recommend deleting the file localthumbcache.package, regularly, from Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4.

well ty for the welcoming... anyways, ok i get what ur saying i can imagine being in an admins shoes... but what can one say about how utterly bad they are at stating their rules? as ull see in this screenshot it never even mentions kicking/banning pirates http://prntscr.com/m0a8px




so what is their deal? why not just stick to their words??? ive been on g4tw for a while (as a guest) and ive seen proper management here (even tho this web gives out a pirated games).. so why is a discord server that has links to the sims 4 devs itself so poor at explaining rules???

ps: sorry for bad english its not my native tongue

i mean they could easily just state in their rules that pirate = instant ban or stick to their policy about locking pirates out of certain channels

delan-C wrote:i mean they could easily just state in their rules that pirate = instant ban or stick to their policy about locking pirates out of certain channels

You're raising an interesting point. But: I do not know these people, nor do I myself particularly like that entire "Discord"-platform in general. I could try giving some food for thought. Maybe they experience some kind of wicked "thrill" in banning pirates. Maybe there are some perks for these people (collaborations with EA/Sims YouTubers?). Maybe they just want to "show off" in front of their audience, or it could also be a mixture of everything, and possibly more.

Ultimately all you can do is to move on, and maybe try spreading the word about whatever you think fits about that channel.

The_gh0stm4n wrote:

delan-C wrote:i mean they could easily just state in their rules that pirate = instant ban or stick to their policy about locking pirates out of certain channels

You're raising an interesting point. But: I do not know these people, nor do I myself particularly like that entire "Discord"-platform in general. I could try giving some food for thought. Maybe they experience some kind of wicked "thrill" in banning pirates. Maybe there are some perks for these people (collaborations with EA/Sims YouTubers?). Maybe they just want to "show off" in front of their audience, or it could also be a mixture of everything, and possibly more.

Ultimately all you can do is to move on, and maybe try spreading the word about whatever you think fits about that channel.

They're literally terrible... like today someone posted a picture of a bruised sim (i find that disturbing and would understand if a proper rule was devised regaridng the topic) on one of their channels and the admins said that its against the rules which just prompted me to go thru the rules again... guess what? No rule stating anything against posting pictures of bruised sims... they literally just come up with rules int he middle of chats -- which wont be such a bad thing if they also updated their rules section.... yea i guess thats all and i should move on.. and what word ill spread about them? tbh i wont think its a good support server (even for ppl who own the legal version like me..i use this website for other apps and games but not sims).. and their link with ea doesnt surprise me -- ea's dumb too

delan-C wrote:(...) yea i guess thats all and i should move on.. and what word ill spread about them?

Here's some more food for thought, for you. 

No doubt have you (and the other person who posted a similar topic like this, sometime in the past) made your standpoint clear, regarding that Discord-channel. However, is it conceivable that through discussions like these you/we are possibly enabling these platforms further?

Sometimes "negative advertisements" end up being the best advertisements, in that people are made curious, and will be more inclined to take a look themselves.

Now I'm not saying that the fact you opened this topic is necessarily wrong. But the fact that people on "both sides of the aisle" (owners of legit games + pirates) apparently keep talking about this page both positively and negatively, might in the end have an unexpectedly positive effect...for the Discord channel.

I know it sounds like a paradox, but do you get what I am trying to communicate here? I thought that while we were already having such a discussion, to maybe think about what in the end is achieved by that. In theory, it's best to simply not talk about such platforms. And if one does talk about them, keep it concise and short.

The_gh0stm4n wrote:

delan-C wrote:(...) yea i guess thats all and i should move on.. and what word ill spread about them?

Here's some more food for thought, for you. 

No doubt have you (and the other person who posted a similar topic like this, sometime in the past) made your standpoint clear, regarding that Discord-channel. However, is it conceivable that through discussions like these you/we are possibly enabling these platforms further?

Sometimes "negative advertisements" end up being the best advertisements, in that people are made curious, and will be more inclined to take a look themselves.

Now I'm not saying that the fact you opened this topic is necessarily wrong. But the fact that people on "both sides of the aisle" (owners of legit games + pirates) apparently keep talking about this page both positively and negatively, might in the end have an unexpectedly positive effect...for the Discord channel.

I know it sounds like a paradox, but do you get what I am trying to communicate here? I thought that while we were already having such a discussion, to maybe think about what in the end is achieved by that. In theory, it's best to simply not talk about such platforms. And if one does talk about them, keep it concise and short.

ye true...i was just annoyed as hell by their service. so i guess this thread is to be deleted or locked or something???

delan-C wrote:
ye true...i was just annoyed as hell by their service. so i guess this thread is to be deleted or locked or something???

...and it is best to vote with your feet (in this instance keyboard/mouse/mobile device I guess) if these things happen. I think the topic can be closed. as well.